November 2, 2011
Toronto Dogma Gets Run Over by Karma 14
Is there a connection between these two events?
1) In June 2011 the cover of the Toronto Star includes a story that Toronto Intergroup has de-listed two of its groups because of Agnostic/Secular practices.
2) October 2011, Toronto Public Information makes arrangements to donate one Big Book for every library and guidance office in the Toronto District School Board. The free books are refused, no explanation given. The same month a 20-year-old member of the Public Information Committee inquires with the York School Board (a suburb of Toronto) about having alcoholics come talk to the students about teenage alcoholism and recovery. The school board tells her that they do have an alcohol and drug response plan in place but it doesn’t include 12-Step programs.
When I was a teenage AA member, talking at schools was frequent. Up until now, Toronto schools have always stocked the Big Book. Is AA suffering from a PR crisis? Has public sentiment soured on AA?
I don’t know if there is a direct correlation between Educators reading that AA has discriminated against its own non-theistic members and then deeming AA literature as inappropriate for public school children. But both events are part of convergent trends. Outside AA the world grows more secular. Inside AA, in some quarters reification is setting in, promoting a hierarchy of authority and ways to recover within the program.
Des Moines, Indianapolis and Toronto have done a very un-AA thing: The practices of a group and judgment on the group’s worthiness, has been decided by an Intergroup body. At time of writing I understand the Indy has corrected this problem but it wasn’t unanimously approved. Wounds of battle still fester.
These are all groups that meet AA General Service Office (GSO) standards. GSO doesn’t police the activities and readings of groups because we have Traditions. Each group is self-governing, autonomous and beholden to their own group conscience. As Bill W wrote, every group is a group if they say they are, even if they are anti-AA, anti-god, anti-each other. If there is the slightest interest in sobriety, they are welcome in AA.
Agnostic groups have been part of the AA fold since 1978. Roger C of Beyond Belief is compiling a history of agnostic groups and you can read his blog at http://aatorontoagnostics.org for more on that. There are a number of interpretations, translations or variations including Humanist, secular and agnostic in print and on the net.
Many hard-core atheists don’t need AA’s 12-Steps in their own language. They interpret the Steps the way they like, taking what they like and leaving the rest. Others don’t have a “god of their understanding” and speaking in that language would be disingenuous at very least and a dangerous straying away from rigorous honesty at worst.
This translation of the Twelve Steps tells our story in agnostic terms. It saves lives among non-believers and causes hostility among AA’s literalist community. What Bill Wilson describes in the World Service Manual as an angry and rash majority, three Intergroups have cast the agnostics out against their will in an attempt to purify AA from water-wagon sobriety. Changing the Twelve Steps is considered heresy and these Intergroups ignored the urging of General Service to respect each group’s autonomy, Intergroup has declared the changed Steps as a breach of traditions and they are acting as AA enforcement in the service of God.
dog·ma/ˈdôgmə/A principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true.
AA’s authority rests in the group conscience. There are no bosses. Groups who read, print, distribute or practice the God-free steps or any other non-conference approved literature may be right or they may be wrong. That would not matter to the founders. The founders granted AA groups the right to be wrong. AA was designed to be self-correcting and not enforced. If agnostics are not to be as part of the AA fold, they will go away all by themselves; it requires no voting or draconian measures.
Intolerance and the fear that creates it has been part of AA DNA since the get-go. Bill Wilson said this about his own bigotry in the 1961 Grapevine, “In AA’s first years, I all but ruined the whole undertaking with this sort of unconscious arrogance. God as I understood Him had to be for everybody. Sometimes my aggression was subtle and sometimes it was crude. But either way it was damaging – perhaps fatally so- to numbers of nonbelievers… Even now, I catch myself chanting same old barrier-building refrain: ‘Do as I do, believe as I do – or else.”
Everyone’s narrative about their own actions is as the hero or victim, never as the villain. Toronto Intergroup, fell prey ( or maybe “pray”) to what Social Psychologist Lee Ross termed “fundamental attribution error.” If you’re new to this term it plays out like this: We attribute causes of our own shortcomings (and those we love) as being situational. We attribute shortcomings of those outside our circle as being a lack of character. I was late because the traffic and the burden of my “things to do” list. You were late because you don’t value me or my time. You lack integrity. I am busy. It’s the same fault but different attribution to each “crime.”
Intergroup literalists who are what I affectionately coin as drunk on dogma, see one truth, to which they stand ready to defend. Any threat or violation of such “ultimate truth” must be eradicated. It is not discrimination or bigotry in their mind. It is dutiful stewardship of the program that God has bestowed upon us.
Convinced that agnostic interpretation is the erosion from within that our founders warned us about, they seek out a mandate to turn a blind eye to love and tolerance. They find this in a passage in the AA World Service Manual. In there it says that The Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions can only be altered with 75% agreement from the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous.
Anyone on a mission would take that and run with it as a mandate to no longer treat agnostics as rights-bearing equals, so long as they are pledging allegiance to the bastard-Steps of recovery. However, anyone who reads the document in its entirety will see that this 75% requirement is for the entire body of AA to change the Twelve Steps for one and all. There is nothing that suggests women can’t use a gender-neutral reading of the Steps. It doesn’t mean that people who don’t believe in God have to talk like the rest of us to fit in.
Toronto Intergroup is represented by well under half of the Greater Toronto area groups. In a city of over 400+ meetings, getting 60 voting members out would be an accomplishment. It took 23 Yes’s to approve a motion to de-list Toronto’s two agnostic groups.
These defenders of honor would not connect their actions that night with AA being shut out of high schools. But if your world view includes Karma, the butterfly effect or the law of unintended consequences, you might not see a one-to-one correlation here, but you could see that they represent similar trends.
Outside of AA the world is growing more secular.
- The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found less than 60% of New Englanders have an absolute belief that there is a God.
- In Canada, 39% of people belief in a guiding God.
- Ireland and Italy have about 50% with an absolute belief in God and the rest of the western world is at or below 25% with a belief in a deity.
Inside AA reification risks the transformation of a fellowship of equals into dogmatic rituals, unified belief and a hierarchy of authority. Most people are pretty anecdotal about their belief in a higher-power. A few of us promote the Steps as a path to God and don’t want a contrarian world-view pestering them.
Bill Wilson talked of his bigotry being subtle and/or aggressive. Since he wrote that article atheism has tripled in the USA and I expect he would welcome these changes. Discrimination is subtle when we tell newcomer nonbelievers, “You will get it eventually – keep coming back.” When we politely suggest that you agnostics and your secular steps are not AA, suggesting, “Go on down the road and start your own fellowship – we wish you well,” we are in violation of our responsibility pledge. When we scapegoat nonbelievers as practicing water-wagon sobriety and being responsible for AAs declining population or (alleged) falling recovery rates, we are practicing aggressive discrimination. How will the next generation judge us for shunning non-theists?
One of the discussion topics/presentations for the 2012 AA General Service Conference is “Change – Essentials to AA’s Growth and Diversity – Let’s Keep Our Doors Open for any Who May Suffer from Alcoholism”
When we are afraid we try to keep things the same, or as we perceive them to have always been. Sadly that creates mythology about the good ol’ days and dogmatic practices, some subtle, some aggressive.
Diversity can’t happen without accommodation. Hindus, Muslims, Taoists, Buddhists, Apostate’s and Pagans will all continue to find their way here. Is our house in order and are we ready to welcome them? Hey, we don’t have to change. There is always extinction. I hope we are up to the challenge. It doesn’t require a scholastic understanding of all of mankind’s creeds. It just requires an open mind. When people arrive at our doors they don’t need to be told. They need to be heard. When people feel heard, then start to ask questions.







Nov 03, 2011 @ 02:58:45
said so very well Joe. thank you
Nov 26, 2011 @ 04:14:06
Feeling & having too often been an outsider in any community (Iranian-Belgian, gay, girly-boyish, with a speech impediment in my native tongue, 6’3″, and atheist,…); AA is the first community where I found that I belonged if I said that I belonged! No matter what anyone else said!! I was also told that we all have paid our price of admission before we ever got here; I am convinced that is true. I claim my chair in AA and will not vacate; nor will I ask or tell anyone that they should go find another home; for too many of us that will mean “go die”. I came to AA from my deathbed, and only because at the end I heard the soft voice of hope, when I had not for years. That bought me time & AA plus outside help has nurtured it into a life worth living. I am a greatful Atheist who claim my seat & want the hand of AA to be there for all including those from the fringes like me.
Nov 26, 2011 @ 13:56:05
The process of inventory taking is as prudent, if not necessary exercise for all of us personally. Groups take inventories and so should service bodies. How has this generation of AA stewards steered the good ship Double-A?
1. How is AA’s reputation? Has it improved or waned in the last 10 or 20 years?
2. How has AA as a whole been doing? Is it growing, shrinking or staying the same?
3. “Let us never fear needed change. Certainly we have to discriminate between changes for the worse and changes for the better. But once a need becomes clearly apparent in an individual, in a group, or in AA as a whole, it has long since been found out that we cannot stand still and look the other way. The essence of all growth is a willingness to change for the better and then an unremitting willingness to shoulder whatever responsibility this entails.” Bill W. Grapevine July 1965. This was Bill’s message to us before his death. Do we fear and resist change or embraced it?
AA’s reputation? Friends of AA were everywhere 20 years ago. We had our critics in and out of AA but the public had a generally positive opinion of AA. Just type AA and cult into a search engine and see how many anti-AA youtube videos, blogs and published articles you find. At present there are still over 10,000 treatment centers sending new people our way every month but is that unwavering support or a lack of after-care alternatives?
That brings us to growth/contraction. 1993 was the peak of AA size in terms of members. In a recovery community of 20 million people AA members are about 10% of that. These treatment centers are sending people every month but AA isn’t growing; it hasn’t grown in almost 20 years.
As for question 3, groups more than people, resist change. An informed group conscience will vote to keep things the same more often than move forward. That’s human nature. But it’s also natural to follow addiction all the way to the grave. As individuals we have beaten the odds. Maybe as a group we need to apply the same rigorous devotion to change for the better.
Good luck AA. May the next generation do a better job at adapting to the needs of our members and readying us for those still to come.
Nov 27, 2011 @ 01:26:05
A few years ago I did a bit of research and discovered that the total worldwide membership as reported/estimated by AAWS INC had remained stagnant at around two million people since around the early 1970s (IIRC). That as opposed to the growth rate mentioned in the preface to the second edition which increased exponentially from the late 1940s to the late 1960s. I think AA suffers from far too much organization. AA is everywhere now and many see no need whatsoever for the existence of AAWS. Much AA has gone underground and those Groups refuse to associate with the giant corporation known as AAWS INC.
Nov 27, 2011 @ 10:03:27
EACH GROUP MAY BE AUTONOMOUS BUT DR. BOD DID SAY THAT……
“THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERSONAL INTERPERTATION OF THE 12 STEPS ” TO START CHANGING THEM WOULD BE TO START A NEW PROGRAM. GO RIGHT AHEAD AND DO SO IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY BUT LEAVE THE AA PROGRAM ALONE. IT WORKS JUST FINE THE WAY IT IS FOR EVERYONE. EVEN ATHEIST’S AND AGNOSTIC’S.
Nov 27, 2011 @ 19:18:26
That is the politest form of bigotry Paul, “Everyone is welcome so long as they see it our way, say it our way and comply with our group think. If you don’t comply, hit the road; have a nice day.”
The word God is meaningless to some atheists. They see the word god like leprechaun as a cute superstitious word used by people who believe in mythology. But to atheists with a stronger sense of integrity, the word god is both insulting and a misrepresentation to a wordview that includes no deity. Paul, to many, we work the AA steps and don’t believe in an interfering god. Why would we talk about one?
Ether the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking or the requirement for membership is religious conversion. God is not a universally word, it’s a christian word. At least it is when you add the “Him” pronoun.
So what do you want Paul, AA for Christians/Jews or AA for everyone. You refer to a rule about what can be said, written, posted, or thought by an AA group. There is no such rule.
If you believe AA is for alcoholics and you want it to be available for everyone, diversity requires accommodation. Groups that get sober without god aren’t a threat to AA. They aren’t even asking all of AA to see it their way. They are rights bearing equals and they exercise their right to read what they want and say what they want. In fact, regarding what dave said, AA works for non-theists, so why shouldn’t you and I make everyone comfortable here. Believe in God is shrinking. It won’t likely disappear but why not welcome everyone and start growing again? Remember AA feared woman’s groups, gay groups and young people’s groups. We can adjust.
Dec 30, 2011 @ 17:13:13
The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous is the Basic Text for the Fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous. In it, is described in precise detail, the method that the first 100 men and women of Alcoholics Anonymous recovered. It is an account and clear-cut directions describing what they did, and the results of those actions.
We do not offer any alternatives to the design for living as put forth in the book. If that does not work for you, I’m sorry. It HAS worked for millions worldwide and there is no compelling need to change it. I feel deeply for you if you cannot or will not open your mind to the possibility of a Power greater than yourself, but that is not the fault of the Program, nor should it be incumbant upon AA to alter what WORKS to fit the needs of people who only want a part of what we offer.
If you want to play football, you should join a football team; if you want to play rugby, you should join a rugby team. If you don’t want what we offer, then the very best of luck to you, but AA only offers a singular experience and that includes a Higher Power.
We can’t save everybody, not is it AA’s job to convince someone of God. We simply offer what we offer. If you want it, great. If you don’t want it, great. There is no customization of the facts of our founders. They found a new way of living through a reliance upon God and recovered from Alcoholism, that is what happeden, that is what they wrote about, that is what AA offers.
Feb 05, 2012 @ 15:26:16
Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but we don’t each get our own set of facts. Dr. Bob has an opinion but it isn’t more significant than someone who got sober last month. We are a fellowship of equals.
The facts are that AA works for theists. It works just great for atheists. The fact is that AA life isn’t assimilation – it is a mosaic of unique alcoholics in recovery, everyone a little bit different.
The founders didn’t lay down facts – they shared their experience. Don’t canonize them, they never asked us to do that. They asked us to carry to the message to those who still suffer – not to dogmatically preserve their words as the alpha and omega.
Here’s some facts to chew on: AA Chairman, Rev. Ward Ewing says, “AA has no theology. Spirituality is something that everybody who wakes up in the morning has. Spirituality is any factors that we cannot see that effect our life. Peace, caring, serenity, anger, joy, hate, love, things that go on between people. We do not as a fellowship have a creed, we do not have an official theology, we do not have rituals.
There are rituals that sometimes develop in groups and I think we have to be a little careful about that. For instance in the South West and the South Eastern USA, many meetings ritualistically close with the Lord’s Prayer. At the 2010 San Antonio World Conference I was surprised and frankly a little shocked because that comes awfully close to mixing religion and spirituality together – a line I think we have to maintain strongly in this fellowship. That doesn’t mean that I don’t think you can be religious, just don’t make AA religious.
What changes peoples’ lives is when they hear their story from another lips and that is a story of hope, not one of despair. Too much talk of god can be a barrier and I think we should be careful about that. We are all on a spiritual journey and we are all spiritual beings. If someone comes in that has enough faith to be an atheist, which I could never have. Agnostic, I could do that, but atheist – I would have a hard time. If that’s where they are in their spiritual journey, that’s fine. Our job is to help them see where they are I their spiritual journey and to help them see where they can grow. That’s the entire job. It is not our job to convince them that our way is a better way and they ought to take our way. That’s not our job but that’s what we do if we are not extremely careful.
There is a pamphlet coming about various spiritual experiences in AA and it will include stories of agnostics and atheists. A lot of people are upset about this. I am very excited because I think what a lot of us with faith miss is the very spiritual qualities of one without belief in God. They are still a spiritual person who has found spiritual support in AA and they have a story to share. I am looking forward to seeing this when it comes out.
As an ordained minister it took me a long time to find that God doesn’t need my protection. He is so much bigger than my understanding. I don’t need to manage another person’s spirituality. I have a hard enough time managing my own. Our focus is on powerlessness. We need a higher power. For most of us that starts with the group. It may become more than than but that is an individual journey.”
UNITY DAY, 2011
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